In Ivan Turgenev's novel, "Fathers and Sons," there are many contrasting ideas, people, and places; between Pavel and Bazarov, Madame Odintsov's liberal views versus Bazarov's nihilistic views, the older generation versus the new one. The two places, however, that I think contrast each other the most are Madame Odintsov's estate, Nikolskoe, and Nikolai's estate, Marino. Arkady and Bazarov go back and forth between the two estates - sometimes going to Bazarov's home as well - and they differ in many ways, helping to contribute to the contrasting ideas throughout the book. The first obvious reason they are different is that Marino is in a rural area and Nikolskoe is in an urban area. While that does create different lifestyles for the people living at the two estates, it can also affect the ideas people are exposed to in everyday life. For Nikolai, being in a rural area has caused him to lose connections to the changing, modern world. Because of his continuing traditional views, he can't connect as well with his son, Arkady and his more modernized beliefs, causing Nikolai to feel awkward when Arkady first came back home. An example of this is when Nikolai says how the farm must feel special to his son because he was born there and Arkady replies that it "makes no difference where a man is born ¦.absolutely no difference. This shows a bit of the nihilist belief system that Arkady has picked up from Bazarov conflicting with Nikolai's emotional attachment to things. Then, when Arkady and Bazarov stay at Madame Odintsov's estate we can automatically tell a difference in the urban environment. Since Odintsov is a bit more modernized in her beliefs she's more able to have spirited debates with Bazarov, and sometimes Arkady, as opposed to the aggressive arguing that goes on between Bazarov and Pavel. Madame Odintsov's responses to Bazarov's extreme nihilist views presents another difference in the friends' experience at the two estates. She