"Evil has no positive nature; but the loss of good has received the name 'evil.'" (St. Augustine) In Plato’s Meno, Socrates and Meno attempt to define virtue as a whole, in doing so they touch upon fundamental aspects of human nature; the good and evil in society. In one of these attempts Meno claims that virtue is “to desire beautiful things and have the power to acquire them” (Plato 66). Socrates then modifies Meno’s answer slightly by changing out the word “beautiful” with “good” (67). In saying this Socrates categorizes people into two types: those who desire good things, and those who desire bad things “thinking that it will benefit them” (Hoerber 85). Socrates claim also gives a third type of person which he says doesn’t exist, people who desire bad knowing full-well that what they desire is inherently bad (Plato 67). What is desire than what makes us fundamentally human, Socrates “proposition that all people desire the good is not trivially true just because Socrates stipulatively defines desire in an idiosyncratic way. Socrates' claim is 'meant to express a truth about the underlying structure of human motivation'” (Wolfsdorf 78). Serial killers such as Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer exist almost in direct opposition to Socrates claim that all men desire good things. Socrates is “committed to the view that all people desire what is really good” (Wolfsdorf 77). If Socrates were to be around in the 21st century with serial killers such as Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer who showed “no remorse” after confessing to murder with a single reason, to kill for “pleasure” (Daily News, par. 2). This “third type” of person is alive and well in the 21st century. After Meno’s third attempt at defining virtue, Socrates asks Meno, “Do you think, Meno, that anyone, knowing that bad things are bad, nevertheless desires them? -- I certainly do” (Plato 67). Meno believes that people desire bad things k